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* * * WE WON!!! * * * 

 

BOS July 23, 2008 Meeting results: 150 Valley Center folks showed up waving American flags at the BOS meeting. About 50 people spoke against the Road 3A/SPA.

ON MOTION of Supervisor Horn, seconded by Supervisor Jacob, the Board took action as recommended and directed the Chief Administrative Officer to take the following actions:

· Regarding Valley Center, remove the Road 3A SPA from the General Plan Update discussion completely, as it will proceed, if at all, on a separate track as a separate GPA;

· Continue to analyze the Road 3A roadway as a part of the general plan and environmental documents without the additional density;

· Clearly delineate the additional routes and choices the drivers would have as well as the total load that predicted for the road and the total capacity levels for the roads as discussed by staff during the discussion;

· Verify the history going back to the 60’s on road 3A.

AYES: Cox, Jacob, Slater-Price, Horn

ABSENT: Roberts


Flag-waving Valley Center residents boarding the Freedom Bus to liberate Valley Center

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Agressive + Secretive = Accretive
Jon Rilling, the Vice President of Accretive, the property developer of the proposed Horn's Ville SPA, wrote a "personal" letter to local residents (his "neighbors") to encourage them to oppose the VCCPG and support road 3A (the road to Horn's Ville).

Along with his fear-tactic message about VCCPG actions, his note included two sample letters to be sent to the BOS and Supervisor Horn plus addressed, stamped envelopes. He did everything except sign the letters.

Jon Rilling's "Personal Touch" letter
Anne's Geinzer's response to Jon Rilling
Contact Jon Rilling - Let him know what you really think!


Read the July 3rd "For the Record", a page from Bill Horn's website. This message plays like a broken record, the same old message over and over again, but he missed the point.

The Supervisor fails to focus on the real issue: He bypassed the process of gathering community input on land use and development. He knows what we want and he knows what we don't want.

From Sandy Smith: "In Supervisor Horn's June 10 and July 3, 2008 For the Record on his website, he goes to great pains to point out when the Valley Center Community Planning Group knew about this Road 3A that he says is critical to Valley Center. Blah, blah, blah... I say to him and the VCCPG, focus on the real issues!

How is Road 3A going to help my family leave Valley Center during the next emergency? It's so far on the west side of Valley Center, that until it's connected to where most folks live now, it's just a waste of money. What's the plan to build the roads we really need?

Mr Horn's rationale to pay for the road is to build a new village of 3000 homes and commercial surrounding the road. The road is not needed and neither is this new village. Volunteers who have lived in Valley Center for over 10 years have spent the last 8 years working with the county on the General Plan Update. Our plan already expands our existing two villages.

This new village added to the plan at the last minute is a slap in the face to these community volunteers.

Prioritizing money to roads that help existing Valley Center residents in emergencies is a real issue. Respecting the planning process for the county's General Plan Update is a real issue. What's the answer for these?"


"Government that is closest to the people governs best.It has everything to do with accountability and integrity.

I truly believe in government 'of the people, by the peopleand for the people' and as such I am honored to serve as an elected guardian of our County."

 - BILL HORN, Supervisor - 5th District


The quote above is fromBill Horn's website.

Which people is he talking about?

Contact Bill Horn and tell him what you really think.

Email the Supervisors:

Thanks for your support...Greg Cox, Chair

A great big thank you to Dianne Jacob, Vice Chair

A "Where were you???" to Ron Roberts

A major thank you to Pam Slater-Price

 

Handout from the April 23rd VCCPG Meeting

VCCPG Position on the proposed Specific Plan Area + 3,000 Homes Project

On June 23rd, 2008, in a public meeting held at the Lilac Elementary School in Valley Center, the Valley Center Community Planning Group, in the presence of, and with the enthusiastic support of, local citizens, voted unanimously to oppose the development of the Specific Plan Area (SPA) and the addition of 3,000 homes in Valley Center.

* * * Supporting Documentation * * *

Circulation Subcommittee folder: Minutes 4.06.06 VCCPG

Early East-West Road Proposals 2002: Circ.Element Text.doc

Valley Center Planning Gr: VCCPG – April 24, 2006 Minutes.doc

 

Valley Center Planning Group Website


Fun Facts for all you Horn's Ville haters!!!


 


You were right, Angela, it didn't look any better with lipstick on it!


Union Tribune Story "Dream Home, Broken Hearts"
KUSI News Video

Horn's Ville story by David Davis

VCCPG's Nancy Layne laid it on the line, with denials from Bill Horn.


 We said NO! to Horn's Ville

Download the Petition Against the Specific Plan Area (SPA) that will add 3,000 Homes to Valley Center


4/26/05 News8 Horn's Ville Story
4/25/05 News8 Horn's Ville Story 

Fun Facts!!!

 

Draft Technical Review Revisions, County of San Diego General Plan, Land Use Element.

 

 Page LU-12 assured the IG and interested public the following:

 

Specific Plan Area.

This designation is applied to areas with an existing specific plan.

 

The designation of new Specific Plan Areas to substitute for General Plan land use designations will not be permitted once the General Plan Update is approved. Specific Plans may contain residential, commercial, industrial, public, institutional and/or open space uses, and detailed land use regulations are contained within each adopted specific plan document. This designation is not to be used for future specific plans. Future Specific Plans shall be consistent with and implement the goals and policies of the General Plan.

 

Huh??? What does that mean???

 

Specific Plan Area: This designation is applied to areas with an existing specific plan. The designation of new Specific Plan Areas to substitute for General Plan land use designations will not be permitted once the General Plan Update is approved.

 

If this designation is applied to areas WITH AN EXISTING SPECIFIC PLAN - Bingo! (Not an "area". A real live SPECIFIC PLAN inside "an area.")

 

Horn may have gotten staff to crayola a purple "Specific Plan Area" on the map - but it has NO (repeat, NO) EXISTING Specific Plan. In fact, Accretive doesn't yet have the land it needs, and has NO application at the County for a Specific Plan - because it can't even figure out the boundaries - and neither can DPLU.

 

Further, it takes a TON of time to approve a Specific Plan - the one thing about SPs is that all the environmental, traffic, infrastructure finance, etc. Studies have to be written, parsed, revised etc. In some cases (likely, in VC) where there are endangered species, you have to monitor the land through a year to assess the mating season and results; when wildflowers bloom (especially plants that are food for endangered or threatened species) because often it's only the blossom color that tells you what subspecies it is.

 

Then all that has to go out to public review. Including federal and state agencies.

 

And there's a creek running through there. (Where do you think Running Creek Road gets its name?). Incredible riparian habitat - and that's where Accretive wants to put its road.

 

Then there are the CWA pipelines - big 55" aqueducts - all through there. Heavy road-building vehicles are not tender-hearted to pipelines.

 

Planning blasting? (You try to build 3000 homes, it's gotta be flat as a pancake.) That's absolute Hell on pipelines - and bird mating.

 

Gonna approve the General Plan Update in TWO years? Accretive would need four years to get their Specific PLAN approved - minimum - if they started at 6:00 AM tomorrow. Or more likely six or seven or ten years.

- Special thanks to Patsy Fritz and George Courser for this information -

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ADDRESSING THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS

REQUEST TO SPEAK, ITEMS ON THE AGENDA:

Members of the public wishing to address the Board on any agenda item should submit a "Request to Speak" form to the Clerk of the Board at least five (5) minutes prior to the scheduled commencement of the meeting in order to pull the item for discussion, or in the case of a time certain item, at least five (5) minutes prior to the set time; or in the case of a matter pulled for discussion, prior to that item being called by the Clerk.

Please note that "Request to Speak" forms will not be accepted once the item is called.

Speakers should determine if they are in favor of or in opposition to the Chief Administrative Officer's recommendation, or in the absence of the Chief Administrative Officer's recommendation, the Planning Commission, or Planning and Environmental Review Board recommendation.

Separate slips are available for support or opposition to the stated recommendation.

Speakers may not yield their time to another person.

Time allotted to each speaker is determined by the Chair, and in general is limited to three (3) minutes.

For more information on the BOS meetings: http://www.sdcounty.ca.gov/cob/bosa/aginfo.html.

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Contact Jon Rilling - V-P Accretive

Agriculture Land Company

John Rilling

3655 Nobel Dr. Suite 650

Escondido, CA 92046

ph: (858) 546-0033

fax: (858) 546-0770

email: jon@accretive-capital.com

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 Directions to BOS meeting at 1600 Pacific Hwy, San Diego

 Estimated driving time: 50 minutes Distance: 39 miles

 1: Start out going EAST on LILAC RD toward VALLEY CENTER RD/CR-S6. 0.1 mi

2: Turn RIGHT onto VALLEY CENTER RD/CR-S6. Continue to follow CR-S6. 5.8 mi

3: Turn SLIGHT LEFT onto BEAR VALLEY PKWY S. 5.7 mi

4: BEAR VALLEY PKWY S becomes E VIA RANCHO PKWY. 0.6 mi

5: Merge onto 1-15 S via the ramp on the LEFT toward SAN DIEGO. 14.7 mi

6: Keep RIGHT to take CA-163S. 10.5 mi

7: Take the I-5 N exit, EXIT 1 B, toward 4TH AVENUE. ' 0.6 mi

8: Merge onto I-5 N via the exit on the LEFT toward LOS ANGELES. 0.2 mi

9: Take the HAWTHORN ST exit, EXIT 17, toward SAN DIEGO AIRPORT. 0.5 mi

10: Turn SLIGHT LEFT onto W HAWTHORN ST. 0.3 mi

11: Turn LEFT onto PACIFIC HWY. 0.3 mi

12: End at 1600 Pacific Hwy San Diego, CA 92101

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